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Mensaje por willynovi » 06 Mar 2010 17:06

Alvaro, now you said it, it´s true :blush:
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Mensaje por flyer » 06 Mar 2010 17:21

Yes, you can use the default Microchip's PID/VID, but did you ? I saw custom device name in your screens...

Always on some your screen i saw a photo with hundreds of pcb, so i tought they sells it...But maybe who maked it wants some hundreds of dashboard.

Yes , if i want i can mount one myself with my risk... why you don t explain those risk to people ? Than, after we know the risk, we can choose if do it or not.

I just said everything, and who had to understand, now has understood very well...

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Mensaje por crobol » 06 Mar 2010 20:04

"Carefull.
This Do It Your self Display is very dangerous for your health. Don't try to build or use, only at your own risk.

It tries to look similar than a McLaren display, and uses USB technology, so for that is absolutely illegal.

Take care."


enough? :?
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Mensaje por jimiTES » 06 Mar 2010 21:49

:roll:
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Mensaje por bixurro » 06 Mar 2010 23:40

con tu permiso crobol.... lo traduzco al CABAQUEIRO..... (idioma ancestral de los emigrantes gallegos) y gritao....

"ANOTACA DO CISPROIS POR CANELOLLA.... MCLAREN..... FOLLACA OS SILFOS DA JALLEIRA.... USB.... CURMANS DA MURCIDEIRA.... "

para que no vayan a creer que estamos ofendiendo a nadie.. la traduccion literal dice algo asi como.

"si lo usas frecuentemente ..podras padecer disfuncion erectil positiva (osea machete parao todo el dia)
y qe mclaren y usb no son responsables....usalo a tu propio riesgo"

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Mensaje por flyer » 07 Mar 2010 12:29

Hey Crobol,

i'm glad you smile and joke, i love that feeling. We will see if you still want to do it in future, we are nobody to judge if you can do that or not... so let's judge to McLaren Electronics Department, they will know better for sure about laws.
Same thing about USB.org and the company that now has a clone of their unique and paid VID/PID... How many life you will need for pay them ? Who can know...
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Mensaje por jimiTES » 07 Mar 2010 13:12

Y este tio que coño intenta, baneadlo y que de por culo en otro lado :evil:
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Mensaje por alvaro_pasto » 07 Mar 2010 13:25

The only thing similar to original McLaren display is that XR Display has 15 leds and 9 7-segments display. Everything on XR Display is developed from scratch. No one has a McLaren display over here, then nobody knows how McLaren display works, what features it has, etc...

¿Are you a McLaren's or USB.org lawyer? If you don't, in my opinion, you must shut up.
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Mensaje por flyer » 07 Mar 2010 13:37

You will remove the USB connection from that product very soon, believe it !
Same for "PCU-6C replica" name used in the net. Believe...
I'm not lawyer, i'm the one who will report the thief in right places. No more.
Now i can shut-up, my principal ! Everybody can be offensive behind a keyboard, hard is do it in front of... ridicolous !
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Mensaje por flyer » 07 Mar 2010 13:55

of course, this shitty amateur piece cannot be the same than PCU-6C, firstly because it's totally different products, the PCU-6C is a CAN display drived by the car's ECU, it has alphanumeric digits and a 6 layers board with EMI rules RESPECTED.
The XR is a USB (unlegal) device that uses HID technology for communicate with PC.
A couple of shitty pcb with shitty GND planes and protozoic components, an over sized MCU just for drive a fucking third elementary school MUX, 18F4550 wtf ?!? ahahahahahahahahahahahah, you can also use a 16 bit freescale or better a DSP...ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Switch ON a AM radio near your shitty product, and listen what you cannot see....Not so near, up to 50m for sure LOL
And finally it uses the PCU-6C name in the web, because it's a replica OMG ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Why i have to do this DIY , buying: a pic programmer, a big mcu, 7 segments...... i think more than 40 eur FOR SURE and no PCB... so 200+ flying connections.... for have a shitty product when with some eur more i can buy a Leo Bodnar or Mak-Corp professional and LEGAL products....a finished product. I'm sure they applied all the right technical and moral rules before selling it...
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Mensaje por jimiTES » 07 Mar 2010 13:59

Please learn spanish and don´t trust on Google Traductor. That was what i wrote:

"What the hell is this guy trying?, ban him and let he fuck another place"

I didn´t insult you.
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Mensaje por flyer » 07 Mar 2010 14:05

Sorry Jim, but i don t speak spanish, and you wrote in spanish...so my only way for understand is the bad translator. Anyway i will accept the ban, and i don t have more to say on other places, i just said real things.

Saludos
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Mensaje por willynovi » 07 Mar 2010 14:43

ha, ya veo por donde viene la mano, quizas alguien esta teniendo menos ventas gracias a que un grupete de amigotes se fabricaron un simple display para ellos mismo, no para vender, mas allá de que sea una mierda el display, nadie esta currando con esto, osea no estamos vendiendo mierda e intentamos llenarnos los bolsillos de monedas.

hey, I see wath goning on, maybe someone is having less sells since a group of friends had make for themself a simple display, not for sell, it´s true the display is a shit, but none is trying to became reach with it.

And please, if you have something to ask about DisplayXR, please ask it in the rigth place, in XtremeRacers Forum, not in any place where none know how it work or how to build it. :wink:

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Mensaje por crobol » 07 Mar 2010 15:08

No se tolera lenguaje soez ni insultos... :evil:
Y de momento este señor solo podrá comunicarse, en caso de querer hacerlo a través de sus supuestos abogados.
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Mensaje por Flyer2 » 07 Mar 2010 15:31

Since the free expression and the speech freedom are not tolerated here, i was removing all my posts. The ban was faster... Crobol, you can easy remove everything ! I'm just a customer and have some skills on electronic... i bought a display last year, and i still use it. I was just considering some aspect that here nobody talked about.
DIY projects are so important for the communities, i agree, BUT, if i want to divulgate something i have to be sure of what i'm doing... people are ever free to choose, but if someone come here to learn HOW TO MOUNT A DASHBOARD is only because has not properly skills for develop one his self. So i think you have to teach ALL he needs to know for proceed in right direction. Who developed the DisplayXR know well what i said on my precedent posts, same way he knows that i said TRUE things.
Nobody asked "Why i can t use custom PID/VID if is a DIY project?" or "Why i have to use a power chocke coil on USB power?" or "Why my wireless keyboard has strange behaviour when i use the dashboard?" no, but everybody said same thing: "WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE WANT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S A FREE AND DIY PROJECT ! SO SHUT UP !".
I'm sorry for the disturb, have a great life !
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Mensaje por willynovi » 07 Mar 2010 16:46

It´s ok flyer, I think this is going nowhere.
Sorry, but I don´t understand your point, could you please be more clear?

We don´t said to built it, we only said, we have done this and this is the way we do it, if you want to build it, under your own risk, knowing or not about USB.org or EMC emmisions, it´s your problem.

I think there are more dangerous thing to worry about.
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Mensaje por crobol » 07 Mar 2010 19:19

Flyer, I don't understand you and your intentions. Your language is not very cordial since your first post, and that's why you receive hostility on some posts.what's your problem?

We don't have any commercial interest with the DisplayXR, only to share our development, and we are open to receive impressions if anything can be done better. But saying we are thieves or with menaces you don't will be well received.

I'm not sure what are you real intentions but if you only want to advise us about some errors, please, do it in another way.
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Mensaje por Nye » 08 Mar 2010 11:58

Sorry guys, I've been away for too long, and now I come here and see this thread....

Well, flyer has a point there that we have not considered from the begining.
I really hope we are not doing something wrong, as we are not making money from this project. It's just a will to share our little knowledge so we all can enjoy a homemade display that works on our favourite sims.

There's only one point that's not clear for me. It's the need to have a unique HID references. And here we could be in trouble
I don't believe any references to the McLaren electronics device are wrong, but it doesent really matter if they are written or not, so remove them from the manuals and official posts just in case.
EMI... well. You're probalby right, but it's not a professional product so don't expect it to respect any rules. It works... that's what really matter IMHO. There's plenty of devices out there that does not respect any rules. It's just a amateur project as thousands you'll find in the net.

For the record: This is not a product one can buy. It's not for sell. It's a DIY device. No one is making money. Do it at your own risk.

on a side note:
A couple of shitty pcb with shitty GND planes and protozoic components, an over sized MCU just for drive a fucking third elementary school MUX, 18F4550 wtf ?!? ahahahahahahahahahahahah, you can also use a 16 bit freescale or better a DSP...ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
Yes
You are right
It's a shit
But it works
We have had some fun and learnt some new things while meeting new friends that share the same passion. There's few people enjoying their own XR displays. That's all I need to know to feel I have not wasted my time.
I wish I had more time so we could make it even better. But one has to work for a living and this was not meant to take profit. So real life comes 1st.
When we started to talk on this project, more than a year ago, there was no professional product with similar specs. Leo Bodnar created his new one later. So there was the need .... and we gave it a try. That's everything we are guilty of.

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Mensaje por jimiTES » 08 Mar 2010 12:12

You keep on impresing me with your cool mind and common sense Nye.

Amen
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Mensaje por Flyer2 » 11 Mar 2010 18:12

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... vlEFx2CmJg
Vendor = XtremeRacer... Product = XRDisplay...
Última edición por Flyer2 el 11 Mar 2010 18:41, editado 2 veces en total.
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Mensaje por noalone » 11 Mar 2010 18:24

THIS display wasn´t sold! never!
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Mensaje por guiller94 » 11 Mar 2010 18:30

Flyer2 do not you have another best thing that to do?
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Mensaje por Flyer2 » 11 Mar 2010 18:43

Yes i have so many better things to do.
Why ? My last post here was 4 days ago...
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Mensaje por guiller94 » 11 Mar 2010 18:46

Flyer2 escribió:Yes i have so many better things to do.
Why ? My last post here was 4 days ago...
Indeed it does not seem that you have other best things that to do :blush:
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Mensaje por alvaro_pasto » 11 Mar 2010 18:47

Flyer2 escribió:Yes i have so many better things to do.
Why ? My last post here was 4 days ago...
¿Tu sabes el significado de las palabras "pedido conjunto"? Muchas empresas hacen descuentos al hacer pedidos masivos, aparte de ahorrar en gastos de envío.

Pero sigue, que es divertido ver como intentas sacar de donde no hay.
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